I still have had no luck getting it to start on ABS+. I can however print using the ABS material. @Jason-TT can you please confirm that using ABS+ does work on UP300 with Catfish 1.2.4_0944883400.
I left the printer and PC idle for an hour but there did not seem to be any material updates.
So some preliminary results between Catfish and UpStudio Slicers.
Below is a simple part; the white one is printed in ABS+ sliced using UpStudio, the other one (yellow) sliced in Catfish using ABS. I donāt expect the material change makes much difference but Iām unable to print in ABS+ using Catfish at the moment because of issues listed in previous posts.
You can see from these parts that the white one (UpStudio) has holes and gaps near the base of the key handle that extend all the way through the part. Closer images below:
The UpStudio print is using 99% fill, 0.1mm height, normal speed. The Catfish print is 100%fill, 2 layer contour, 0.1mm height, normal speed.
There is a big difference here in the fill. It may not seem like much but this is the first time ever Iāve been able to print with more than one contour and at 100% on my UP300. This is also the first time Iāve been able to print without gaps in the flat surfaces.
I should point out the Catfish version pulled away from the raft a little but this I my fault I think as I selected hatched raft instead on using the default raft in catfish. I think in this mode it bypassed the bed leveling in the UP300. I will try again later and check the result.
So in short I think Catfish is looking promising. There are short-comings for now like the usability and not being able to change individual supports like in UpStudio but this is not supposed to be a finished product yet.
I will be using Catfish for any engineering parts that need strength or tapped holes. If I can get ABS+ working that would be ideal.
For anyone having the edge peeling/infill issue I would recommend to use Catfish.
@BigE79
Thatās excellent info and shows very promising results, thanks so much for taking the time to do the trial and for posting the results.
I have a question for Tiertime:- āWhy are you not posting information and photos like this yourselves every day, or at least every week?ā
I ask as a long time TT user and supporter whoās been giving serious thought to walking away from TT products. Product delays, bugs that donāt seem to be understood let alone fixed, and a certain promise that wasnāt delivered upon were just about the final straw. To see that there is good stuff coming, and that it isnāt ājust wordsā would go a long way to turning unhappy customers into happy ones.
Youāve done the hard part (the engineering) you just need to do the easy bit (telling people about it).
This is a quote from another supplier I use:-
After receiving feedback from many users, especially on the forum (thank you!), we have made some additional improvementsā¦
This was referring to a new feature introduced on their three week update cycle. We as users asked for some changes and they were implemented in the very next release. Not only that but after posting on the forum a member of the dev team reached out personally to ask for feedback on how to improve the feature. That is how customer service is from a good company these daysā¦
I can confirm now that printing using Profile raft instead of Hatch works better and I didnāt any part lifting off the raft.
@Jason-TT. Regarding the ABS+ issue. In Catfish the material profile for ABS+ (in material lib tab) uses ABS as the base material just at a higher temperature. Do you think this is why ABS+ is not working on the printer; because it thinks itās ABS?
I canāt find ABS+ in the āTypeā pull down field:
ABS+ should belong to ABS type, but not sure what happened, we will look into this.
A quick fix would be use ABS profile and increase the print temperature for 5-10 degrees as other setting for these two profiles are almost identical.
Why add the complexety of .tsk files instead of g-code output? that would render the need to sync material profiles as all the information the printer needs would be in the g-code no?
Still waiting for the registration to come through so I can try it on the Up Mini 2, that may or may not support g-code. Hopefully that takes care of the material voodoo. Thanks for reporting back @BigE79!
I think it is. Looking through the software, one can select Cetus or Cetus_H as the desired machine to slice in.
The slicer is designed to work with 3rd party and all Tiertime machines Iām pretty sure. Some of the older Tiertime UP printers might need a CPU upgrade to be able to read the gcode or updated proprietary output language better.
@Jason-TT does Catfish try to move away from the use of stepper motor language as present with UP Studioās slicing method, and more with gocde or a proprietary variation of gcode for Tiertime printers?
My guess is Catfish outputs a proprietary version of gcode for Tiertime printers, hence how it is able to slice considerably faster like weāre used to in other programs like Simplify3D
The Catfish will replace UP Studio, for those who feel UP Studio is too limiting.
UP Studio will still be there as a basic, easy to use program for general printing and beginners.
For advanced or Pro users, Catfish is made for them, there is no limit on the settings, so its easy to make mistakes if the user is not familiar with the settings but there is no limitation.
We will provide more toturials later, to explain how to use the settings.
Iām having problems getting Catfish to work with my UP Box upgraded to a Box+ through the wireless CPU upgrade kit.
Iāve tried slicing using standard Tiertime ABS and ABS+, as well as UP Box and UP Box+ selected as the machine in the program. I made sure I put in the nozzle height value from UP Studio in and also changed the material profile to the materials so there wasnāt a mismatch there.
Iām using the latest Catfish Beta revision for Mac and the latest Mac UP Studio version. I think thereās an issue at the moment using it all with Mac. Iāve sent out a registration code to try on Windows, havenāt received yet though.
okay, i sort of understand what you want to achieve, but the functionality is a bit unclear, but Iām sure itāll be possible to clean it up a little in time.
Another thing is the layer control slider on the right side seems to default to both sliders at the bottom, while the whole model is shown. To get back to that state the left slider needs to be at the bottom and the right slider needs to be at the top, so I would think it should start off in a position that reflects what is shown?
Failure on Up Mini 2. Selectd Up Mini 2 as machine and PLA as material. Loaded .stl file and sliced as g-code.
After warning printer starts printing in the air at max z-height instead of on the bed. Bed heat was not enabled, and it was not possible to stop print from UP Studio or touch screen.
Tried slicing to .tsk file, but got error āLoading failedā.
Tried adding .gcode and .tsk file to post, but not allowed by forum.